Starfleet Commander talk:Wiki Editors Council/Archive 1

Vandalism from bots

There seems to be quite a bit of vandalism latley from spam bots. Silver Gate Squadron mentioned an idea about semi protecting every single page. So what are the thoughts on this?

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• I'd be OK with it. As I was told, Laggynate wants to be alerted whenever a page is locked, so I assume this would constitute a massive locking spree. Jesus Saves 13:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
• Well all 3 of us and maybe even laggynate would have to spend some time protecting them. I will also talk to Matt since an operation of this size needs his approval. --Phil Sutherland 13:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

* As I understand it, "protect" and "lock" are two different things. I beleive "protected" pages can be edited by anyone as long as they are a registered user (not just a random IP address) and I was suggesting that. Since most of the vandalism seems to be coming from unregistered IP addresses. Not a full lockdown (as has been done on a few pages, like how the Oracle page used to have the wrong info in the grid but nobody could change it). Silver Gate Squadron 04:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

• Ah, OK. I like that idea. Jesus Saves 13:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

• Ya thats what I meant I just use the terms semi-lock (registered users) and fully-lock(Admins only)

Il email Matt on Monday morning asking him what he thinks. --Phil Sutherland 14:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

- I've protected the Artemis Class Fighter page, after it was reverted from vandalism damage for the third time in eight hours. Silver Gate Squadron 15:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC) - P.S. Also protected Charon Class Transport for the same reason. Silver Gate Squadron 17:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

New Ship Info

Recently approved by Matt.

• Hephaestus Class Attack Platform
• Length: 80km
• Width: 30km
• Height\Depth: 25km
• Crew: 800,000

• Hermes Class Probe
• Length: 2m
• Width: 1.2m
• Height: 1.2m
• Crew: 0

• Zeus Class
• Diameter: 15,000m
• Height\Depth 17,000m
• Crew: 50,000

• Charon Class Transport
• Length: 40m
• Width: 22m
• Height\Depth: 22m
• Crew: 4

• Helios Class Solar Satellite
• Length: 15m
• Width: 15m
• Height/Depth: 5m
• Crew: 0

• Ares Class Bomber
• Length: 400m
• Width: 300m
• Height\Depth: 250m
• Crew: 200

• Gaia Class Colony Ship
• Diameter: 10,000m
• Height\Depth: 4000m
• Crew: 200
• Passengers: 2000

• Dionysus Class Recycler
• Length: 55m
• Width: 40m
• Height/Depth: 15m
• Crew: 40

• Hercules Class Cargo
• Length: 75m
• Width: 37m
• Height\Depth: 18m
• Crew: 60

• Atlas Class Cargo
• Length: 55m
• Width: 23m
• Height\Depth: 7m
• Crew: 25

• Apollo Class Fighter
• Length: 19m
• Width: 8m
• Height/Depth: 1.5m
• Crew: 1

• Artemis Class Fighter
• Length: 7m
• Width: 15m
• Height/Depth: 2m
• Crew: 1

• Poisidon Class Cruiser
• Length: 150m
• Width: 50m
• Height/Depth: 30m
• Crew: 70

• Athena Class Battleship
• Length: 500m
• Width: 300m
• Height/Depth: 140m
• Crew: 600

• Hades Class Battleship
• Length: 800m
• Width: 240m
• Height/Depth: 135m
• Crew: 2000

• Prometheus Class Destroyer
• Length: 1800m
• Width: 600m
• Height/Depth: 450m
• Crew: 5000

Trying to figure out the best way to put it in the wiki --Phil Sutherland 00:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

• Lololol they actually made this information? Nice. But how is it going to be used? Jesus Saves 01:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

• There that should make it more readable. Im trying to figure out a good type of chart to stick in every page. --Phil Sutherland 13:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

• Check out the Athena Class Battleship I put in a chart with it in it. Does it look ok?

--Phil Sutherland 14:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

• That looks great. Jesus Saves 13:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Doom Beaver

The Doom Beaver page was revitalized. Do we keep it or no? I really like it but it's not technically part of the game, more like folklore... Jesus Saves 19:20, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I say we put it up to vote. Im going to create a vote page for the wiki. My suggestion is to create a folklore section of the wiki. --Phil Sutherland 20:31, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I have create the vote page here please all vote using same templates as Request for admin status. --Phil Sutherland 20:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Spam Bots

Recently there have been lots of vandalism by spam bots. Im not sure what we can do to stop this or at least minimize it. Any ideas?--Phil Sutherland 11:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Block faster :D Jesus Saves 14:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• I don't bother to block them since ive never seen a spam bot twice from the same IP address --Phil Sutherland 20:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Really Funny

Every one read this page. Im definitively not the head of the wiki. Admin or Bureaucrat status is not a rank, its a privilege and it does not carry any weight in discussions. Matt is the head of the wiki, if anyone is. I just notified the alliance leader that one of his members was being a huge pain on the wiki and breaking his stated alliance rules. --Phil Sutherland 20:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I see a couple flaws in his statements...

• Nino990 has no user page, and the user talk page's only edit is when you put in the Welcome template. Yet he claims that you told the alliance leader over the wiki.
• What relevance does what a person do on here have with in-game? People troll on the forum yet don't get banned from the game, right?
• Why would an alliance leader listen to someone about misbehavior on the wiki? (Well, I could actually understand that, however unlikely that would be to occur).

In addition, it looks like he has revealed his in-game name to be AceLucky.

Jesus Saves 20:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• I did tell Nino990 Via Email since he has email listed on his page. And yes it does only prove our point that he is in fact Acelucky.

--Phil Sutherland 20:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

To clarify, what did you tell the alliance leader and when did you send the message? Jesus Saves 20:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• "I just notified the alliance leader that one of his members was being a huge pain on the wiki and breaking his stated alliance rules." I sent the message over 5 days a go.--Phil Sutherland 21:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks like Jamesa thinks you told his alliance leader to kick him out. But that doesn't sound like something that would mean "kick him out". Did you perchance suggest it in the message? (I realize I'm asking lots of questions. At the moment I'm trying to get both sides of the argument. Myself, I'm staying neutral until I have enough data from both POV's.) Jesus Saves 21:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• I just told him that one of his members broke the rules. I suggested he be booted if he didn't stop. --Phil Sutherland 21:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Okay, first of all, my sister stole my username on wiki as AceLucky(which she wants me to get in more trouble for real) I tried to creat my own account but I can't because Silver Squadon Gates block create account. So, I go to my high school(which they block this site for game or something) I can't access but I use http://www.vtunnel.com/ to unblock this site. And I created my own account on wiki and I just want to help you guys out to remove vandalism trash. That is what I want. --Jamesa 00:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Shortcuts

I have created shortcuts for the 10 most popular pages, plus other useful pages on the wiki.
Main Page - MP
Ships - S
Starfleet Universe - SU
Research - R
Buildings - B
Missions - Mi
Quick Start Guide - QSG
Defenses - D
Espionage Tech - ET
Moon - M

To use, just enter the code on the right column into the search bar.
For a list of all other short cuts go to:
Starfleet Commander:Shortcut or S:S

More will be coming shortly.
--Phil Sutherland 02:07, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Doom Beaver

So what exactly are we going to do about this page? There seems to be a division among whoes who vote it to stay and who vote it goes. I vote it stays. I also categorized it under the Category:Fanon --Phil Sutherland 13:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I vote Doom Beaver goes away. It is screwy and not worth even reading a second time and has Nothing whatsoever to do with SFC --Gary Mintz 13:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• I have create the vote page (Finally) here

please all vote using same templates as Request for admin status. --Phil Sutherland 13:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Alliances EXTREME category

• This category seems to be randomly sucking up all the alliance pages suddenly. I can't figure out why. The category code isn't on the alliance pages themselves (the ones I've looked at, my own included) and they are mostly alliances that (to my knowledge) are Original-only. Anyone have a clue how to correct this? - Silver Gate Squadron 06:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)